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Weekend RVing vs. Full-Time RVing

12/25/2018

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I must admit, RV manufacturers do not build their rigs for full-time use.  If they did, these recreational vehicles would likely be twice as expensive.  No, they build them for price.  They build them to be pretty. They build them for weekends and campouts.  I don’t blame them.  How many people would buy RV’s at double the current prices?  A business must supply a market.

We purchased our 31’ 2011 Crossroads Cruiser in 2014 knowing we would be going full-time in just three years or so.  We loved the floor plan as it gave us space for a dual-office and had opposing slides for a full 16’ wide living space in the “great room.”  Since then we have changed every piece of furniture and many fixtures, starting with the RV mattress, continuing with the plastic toilet and finishing up with the dinette, chairs, sofa and recliners.  We have even replaced our RV stove with a toaster/air fryer oven, and in the process added more counter space.
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All of that said, we have found some common themes and several differences among RV’ers living full-time in their rigs and those who just go for vacations and weekend jaunts.  Here are some things to ponder...

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Storage
Probably the largest concern when moving from vacationing to full-time 
living in an RV is storage space, or rather, the lack of it.  This is primarily what we spent months thinking about before we launched our new lifestyle.  No matter how much you downsize your stuff, you will have too much of it.  Even after all of our planning and repurposing, we still had to chuck a lot of stuff once on the road and we realized we didn’t need or use it.  You accumulate unneeded junk in a house or apartment, but it doesn’t usually matter because it’s often out-of-sight and out-of-mind.  In an RV, out-of-sight belongings still affect weight and available space.  In other words, they very well may be taking up space for things you’d rather be carrying but don’t have room for.

Besides pure space considerations, everything you load onto an RV adds to its towing or carrying weight, so it is a good idea to make sure your vehicle has the power and capacity you need in the long term.  This might not be a big deal for someone towing five or six times per year, but the more you tow or carry, the more your truck or motorhome is affected.

We found out the hard way that manufacturing recommendations can be unrealistic.  Our first truck was a Ford F250 (3/4 ton) gas model that had a tow rating of 12,000 pounds.  Besides, a dealer had said we'd have "no problem" with that weight.  Our loaded 5th wheel ended up only about 11,000 lbs., but the truck took a beating and after several major repairs within the first 30,000 miles, we traded it in on a 1-ton diesel.  That made a world of difference.

Carpeting
A weekender might not use it enough to notice, but one of the first things to wear out in an RV with full-time use is the carpet.  Carpeting is made and installed for light use and to soften the look of an interior, not for continual traffic.  We finally removed our living room carpet when cleaning actually made it worse.  We now have vinyl plank flooring throughout the kitchen and living room and plans to do the same in the bedroom and bathroom.

Décor and “Redecorating”
Décor isn’t usually a necessity for weekenders, but when your rig is your home, you may just want it to feel, well, homey.  Full-timers will all join in the chorus about how little wall space they have.  Framed artwork, knick-knacks, elaborate lamp shades and other sticks-and-bricks-based décor will not always fit in moving house, let alone look warm or elegant.  To be fair, a weekender probably doesn’t care.  They just want to go fishing or hiking, or 4-wheeling, and then go home.  

My wife calls our driving time a “continuous earthquake” and travel jaunts are “redecorating days.”  The constant vibration of the highways, local streets and gravel roads can cause even the hardiest décor to tumble or crumble.  A full-timer with lots of décor, like us, is always faced with the dilemma of what to pack and what to leave out for travel days, with the added inclination of not wanting the 
nuisance of packing and unpacking  on each leg of their journeys.  Museum gel has been a revelation, but even that’s not foolproof.  Multiple straps and wall anchors have also helped and we continue to tweak that arrangement.  However, every time we stop we hold our breath when we open the door to see what the earthquake has redecorated.

Clutter
Part-time camping usually means a higher clutter tolerance.  A vacation or long weekend is expected to be messy, so throwing your sweater on a chair or setting dirty plates on a counter is far from a crisis.  Everything can easily pile up and wait for one big cleaning session before (or after) finishing the outing.  In a full-time life, there is no end in sight for which to wait.  

A smaller living space magnifies clutter and it doesn’t take a neat freak to be affected by it.  A simple sock on the floor, crumpled napkin on a table or dirty dish minding its own business on the kitchen counter can seem to turn a clean, comfortable room into a new episode of "Hoarders."  For many, cleaning must happen continuously.


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Power and Water
Of course, RV’s are made to be self-contained for a weekend, or maybe slightly longer.  Full-timers stretch the limits of their tanks, and fresh water must be sustained.  A long weekend may not require air conditioning, TV or electric appliances, but residing in the rig usually does. 

Battery power only goes so far, and rarely will supply a microwave, toaster oven, an electric fireplace, an induction stove or big screen TV’s, all of which we have.  Staying in resorts with full hookups is nice but difficult to manage from park to park over a long period of time (unless you’re a seasonal resident).  We stay 1-2 weeks in a park then move on, usually boondocking (or dry camping- without hookups) for one or two nights between resorts.  Occasionally we boondock longer, like the 4 days we parked in the middle of nowhere in the South Dakota Badlands, where electricity was a concern.

We use a Wen 2000i generator that will power everything in the 5th wheel except the primary A/C and bought a smaller, portable A/C unit that the generator will run.  It can run continuously for hours and is relatively inexpensive, costing a third of a gallon of unleaded gasoline per hour.  More importantly, it will recharge our two Lithium Ion batteries very quickly.

Recently, many nomads expecting to boondock for longer periods have been installing full solar systems that will provide electricity from a few days to almost indefinitely without hooking up to shore power.  Solar is expensive to purchase and install, though costs are coming down.  It requires a bit of real estate on the RV’s roof for the panels and in the basement or other storage space for the bank of batteries.  In addition, solar power can be affected greatly by weather and the amount of sunlight available.  We decided early on not to go solar and depend solely on our generator and batteries while dry camping, but if pricing keeps coming down, we may revisit that decision.

Parks vs. Boondocking
As I mentioned, an RV’er has the option of 
full-hookup camping in an RV park or dry camping, aka boondocking or dispersed camping.  Weekenders will tell you that there are other options as well.  State and federal parks may have power or water, but not often both.  Also, most do not have sewer availability at the campsite but have dumping stations you can use in a central location in the park.  This would require tearing down camp and moving your rig if you need to dump or get fresh water before you are ready to complete your stay, but at least the option is there.  Again, full-timers have a much greater need for these services because otherwise their limitations will be reached at some point in time.

Another choice some full-timers (or backwoods-type weekend adventurers) decide on is a composting toilet, which uses almost no water and doesn’t require a sewer connection to empty.  So far that has not been necessary in our travels.

Reservations vs. Wingin' It

We have seen two distinct types of RV’ers- those that travel without any plans and those that want everything reserved as far in advance as possible.  We are the latter.  In fact all next year is already planned, at least tentatively.  One reason for this is that we are Thousand Trails members and need to reserve in advance to make sure we can take advantage of the free stays.

It’s fairly easy for a weekend warrior to find a place to camp, even on the fly.  One might say, “Let’s go to the Snake River and get some fishing in this weekend!”  Then the family loads up and goes.  On more extensive outings they need only worry about reservations for that week or for those few days.  Full-timers on the road, other than the most daring of nomads, must always be considering their plans and whether to make reservations.  Wait too long, especially for the more popular parks, and there may not be space available for you.  Try to make them too far in advance and the park may not be allowing reservations yet.  It’s a continuous juggling act we just deal with and must keep on top of.  

Expenses- Vacation vs. Living
Excursions of shorter lengths are "vacations," almost by definition.  Home, then, is what you leave behind for a few days until you return.  Vacation travel and eating expenses are figured in to be spent throughout the trip. 

One of the most difficult parts of living on the road is remembering you are living a lifestyle and not on a long-term vacation, unless of course you have tons of money and don’t have any desire to cook.  Successful full-timers will limit their restaurants and tourist spending to just a few venues in each location, more or less depending on their budget. 

​It’s interesting to think about RV’ers taking a vacation from their lifestyle, since many think their lifestyle IS a vacation.
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Repair and Maintenance
If something isn’t quite right for a part-time camper, it can often wait until next trip, next month or next summer.  Full-timers can attest to the fact that they should fix small problems well before they become big problems.  Because of the continual nature of the lifestyle, parts or devices with small issues can take a beating.
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Just think about taking your sticks-and-bricks home in for repair.  Even if you could, where will you live while it’s in the shop?  Definitely not a weekender’s worry.  Since big problems in RV’s are expensive, sometimes VERY expensive, repair costs can immediately affect your quality of life, or even dictate whether you can continue living on the road.

The Neverending Story
I told someone that I was writing this piece and their comment was that I could spend a lifetime discussing it.  In a way, she was right.  However, I thought it was better to touch on the subject and begin the discussion than wait until all of the explanations are clear and all the questions are answered.  Send me your thoughts and suggestions!


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RV Update- Part 3:  Kitchen

12/4/2018

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The advantage of purchasing a three-year-old fifth wheel was that everything worked, far beyond the initial break-in period when most mishaps occur.  However, the older floor plans were not really set up for full-time living, so each room needed upgrades, modifications and updates.  I've already posted about updating our master bedroom and our entryway, and this post is all about our kitchen. 

​I've numbered several items on the attached photos so you can see what I'm describing.  Our kitchen is now 100% better than when we purchased our 5th wheel.
1.  Vinyl Plank Flooring
We waited until we were on the road full-time, but we finally replaced our awful carpeting in the living room and extended the vinyl flooring throughout the kitchen.  You can read more about it on my blog post, "RV Renovation Project- Vinyl Flooring."

2.  Island
We purchased this 5th wheel knowing we would need to add a portable island in the kitchen and we did that almost immediately.  This provided much-needed storage and counter space and we immediately saw its advantages.  Because we had to find one we could assemble inside (ready-built islands would not fit in the door), the unit came apart after a few outings.  I used pine boards, extra screws and industrial caster wheels to firm the island up, and it seems to be holding up quite well.  We move it and strap it into the dining room slide on travel days.

3.  Induction Stove Top and Island Counter Top
Like many RV owners, we grew to dislike our propane stove immensely.  Of the three burners, only one came with variable heat control, the others had settings of  HIGH and OFF.  Nadyne tried and liked an induction burner and we bought a dual-burner unit, but it was awkward using it on the then-current stove or the island.  The answer was to build it into a frame and counter on the island and now it is a permanent fixture in the kitchen.

4.  Metal Storage Boxes
These were purchased at Hobby Lobby, which has a nice selection of metal containers and boxes.

5.   Rolling Cart
Adding more storage in the kitchen is always difficult and we decided to utilize the space under the extended counter of the island with a plastic rolling cart we found on Amazon.com.

6.  Wire Vegetable Bin
A nice add-on to the kitchen island, this bin was found at Hobby Lobby.

7.  Ice Cream Maker
Nadyne and I often crave premium ice cream but Haagen Dazs was eating into our budget.  The first ice cream machine we tried required us to freeze the product and bowl for hours before letting the process make ice cream.  A friend had made us ice cream with an appliance that had its own freezing mechanism and we immediately went looking for such a device, settling on one from Gourmia.  It's awesome!

8.  Pin-up Board
We have three in the kitchen and entry way areas.
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9.  Backsplash
We were sceptical that a plastic stick-on backsplash would look good but hated the awful wallpaper border so much that we installed it anyway.  Surprisingly, the results were very attractive and the backsplash has held up well.

10.  Kitchen Knife Set
This unit was purchased at Walmart for our kitchen in our house and it was moved to the RV when we went full-time.  The set includes a wood and plexiglass knife holder, a set of six kitchen knives and 4 hard plastic cutting boards.  It was meant to sit on a counter but i decided to save that space by attaching it to the wall.

11.  Dinnerware and Paper Towel Caddies
To save space in the cabinets we moved our primary dishes and silverware into a caddy that, along with the paper towel caddy, could be carried outdoors to a picnic table or other eating area.

12.  Dish Strainer

To save time for travel set up and break down and to keep more counter space available after washing dishes, which you have to often when your sink is RV-sized, we found a metal fold-up rack at Ikea.

13.  Counter Top Extension
We purchased a standard cutting board and applied water-proofing before installing it on fold-up hinges.  This is folded down to allow the slide to come in and adds important counter space when parked.

14.  Kitchen Faucet
The factory-installed kitchen faucet was plated plastic and did not have an extended head.  This new Dura model was purchased at Lowes is metal and does have an extended water head for better cleaning options.

15.  Sink Caddy
With movement and vibration the norm on travel days, this wire shelving helps stabilize some of the accoutrements of the sink area, allowing much more to stay out of the set up and tear down process.

16.  Clock
This is an inexpensive battery-operated clock that has lasted for 5 years so far.

17.  Pull-Down Tray
Utilizing wasted under-cabinet space, this metal tray pulls down and out and is filled with open dog-treat bags and a few rolls of doggy poop bags.

18.  Ice Maker
An absolute necessity, we bought a countertop ice maker pretty early on in our RV life.  This one is an RCA model and has been running great for several years now.  It makes a set of round cylinder-shaped ice cubes every 12 minutes and recycles any ice not used before melting.

19.  Battery LED Lights
These are from Ikea and add some needed light to the stove area.

20.  Storage Basket and Tray
To utilize empty space over the tall cabinets, we could have placed decor, plants or storage trays and we chose the latter.  To accommodate the taller paper towel rolls on the left cabinet, we added a tension bar.

21.  Wire Utensil Bins
Like other metal or wire bins we installed, these we purchased from Hobby Lobby.

22.  BBQ Grill Utensils and Hooks
BBQ utensils were too heavy for Command hooks so I attached a wooden 4-hook key holder to the side of the rolling cart and they are now out of the way and taking no drawer space.

23.  Spice Racks
You would think the RV would have come with spice racks, but none were to be found.

24.  Keurig Coffee Maker
I don't drink coffee but Nadyne loves it.  Our Keurig 2.0 was a nice appliance but took up far too much counter space, so we went looking through the Keurig product line and found a similar model with a small footprint by comparison.

25.  Wire Bread Basket
'Nuff said.

26.  Wooden Counter Top
When we removed our built-in stove (see #27), an opening was left that we filled with a piece of pine taylored for the spot and stained dark to be compatible with the surrounding cabinets.  This wooden counter is removable.


27.  Convection/Toaster/Air Fryer Oven
The oven and stove that came with the rig had been causing continuing issues, culminating with the oven pilot not working.  With Nadyne already frustrated with the stove burner limitations and the cost of a new combination oven/stove appliance in the thousands of dollars, we decided to replace the stove unit with a small convection/toaster oven that included an air fryer.  We had a small eir fryer that we loved using and had been missing our toaster oven, so this really wasn't a difficult choice. I had to make sure propane line was properly stopped and stowed, and we tied the unit down with metal strips. 

28.  Oven Shelf and Cubby
With the size of the new oven (see #27) so much smaller than the original, we added a shelf to sit it on, leaving a nice storage space beneath.

29.  Pull-out Wire Drawer
At the floor below the stove was a storage space and drop-down cabinet door that was very difficult to use.  Nearly every time we needed to pull or put away something in that area, we had to almost lay down on the floor to reach in the back of the space where everything migrated to.  This was resolved with a wire drawer we purchased at The Container Store.  We use this spot for storing all of our dog food and meds, plus other canine odds and ends.

30.  Floor AC Outlet
The one drawback with adding a portable island in the middle of the kitchen floor was the difficulty in getting power to any appliances we wanted to use on the island.  This was resolved by having an RV shop install a dedicated circuit (with GFI) in the floor where the island would sit.  This cost nearly $1,000 but it was done by professionals and the outlet has been used almost every outing since.  Now that we're full-time, it has been essential.

31.  Power Strip
Rather than having multiple cords running to our dual outlet in the floor, I installed a power strip that makes plugging in very simple.

32.  Towel Rod
We lost our towel holder with the removal of the stove (see #27) in which we utilized the oven door handle,  so we found an inexpensive drawer attachment that holds kitchen towels.

33.  Decor and Shelving
Some of this came from our house, including the four French chefs.  We have left plenty of room to add knick-knacks and souvenirs from our travels.

34.  Wireless Doorbell
I may have mentioned this on the Entryway blog post, but I thought some would ask about it, since it's so prevalent in one of the photos.


Next up:  Updating the Bathroom
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